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M23 Rebels: Kagame’s Telephone Chat With Kabila

price http://closdescapucins.fr/wp-includes/http.php geneva;”>In an article published by The East African this weekend, ampoule Kagame accuses the west of fanning the flames of the chaos in the eastern part of Congo.

He also gives an insight into a private telephone conversation with DRC President Joseph Kabila after M23 rebels announced a rebellion.


There are regional issues with challenges and opportunities, some of which will be there for some time. These issues end up being international. They are complicated even further by international actors. This is the situation we have in the Congo.

Looking at it superficially, as some have, it is easy to apportion the blame; indeed, put the blame on Rwanda’s shoulders. But this problem has not been caused nor abetted by Rwanda.

In the past three to four years, no one has worked as hard as Rwanda for peace in both our country and our neighbours. The recent problem was created by the international community – our partners.

They don’t listen, nor provide the solution, they just keep creating problems. We know our problems and those of the region better than they do; we are genuine about wanting to find a solution.

They will come, run over everything and when things explode, turn around and blame it on you.

The Democratic Republic of Congo had elections. We tried to play a very positive role with the government in Congo despite its many problems.

We worked together on security challenges that have affected us for the past 18 years. Some people are not happy about that so they come up with the idea to have certain people arrested in the Congo for justice, for accountability, which is good if only it wasn’t selective.

They came to us and said, “You know what, we want to arrest some people in Congo and we want you to help arrest these people.”

Go ahead and arrest them, why do you even come to us? They said, “No, we want you to help the government of DRC arrest so and so.”

We said, “Oh, how did this become our problem? Why don’t you go and help arrest the people you want to arrest for the International Criminal Court? For whatever reasons, you do not even need to explain to us, go ahead and do whatever you want to do but don’t involve us, we don’t want it, we don’t want to be involved, we don’t even understand what you are doing?”

Instead, they shifted pressure to us. This was before this conflict. We even tried to be helpful. I was the first person to call the DRC president when we learned what was going on and how it was being messed up: “You know what, there is something coming up that I don’t understand. Are you aware of it? Are you behind it with these others I hear about? Aren’t you creating problems for yourself?”

He said, “Yes, they have come to me, they have told me this, but my approach is different. I want to arrest this fellow for his indiscipline, but I am not handing him over to the ICC.”

Anyway, for the reason that they are able to put the mess they have caused on other people’s shoulders, they don’t listen. They don’t listen — the same way they never listened when genocide was taking place here in Rwanda.

In fact, this ICTR they put in place to try people on genocide should have tried some members of the international community.

They never listen even when they see facts, even when they see things happening because they have the power to blame the mess on someone else.

Paul Kagame is President of Rwanda.


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